Taylor Swift Explains How She Took Advantage of Days Off from Eras Tour in Europe to Work with Max Martin Again — and she opened up about the process on Travis Kelce and Jason Kelce's 'New Heights' podcast.

Oh, and while Swift says that The Life of a Showgirl was made with just her, Max Martin and Shellback, that’s not quite true. The title track, which closes the album, features Sabrina Carpenter, teeing up the possibility of a pop collaboration for the ages.