If you’re looking for hot gossip about Obamas’ marriage — or any marriage — the former First Lady’s IMO podcast is not for you.

Hours after Michelle Obama launched a video podcast, Fox News anchor Jesse Watters had already declared it a “flop.” In a Wednesday night episode of Jesse Watters Primetime, the conservative firebrand said he had been wondering where Obama had been after she skipped a string of major events,

Well, the former first lady and her brother talk about a wide-range of things including Robinson’s divorce from his first wife and Michelle also reportedly discusses her marriage to former president Barack Obama, according to the Times.